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house_wilson_ghc2010-01-28 11:19 pm
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Some thoughts about "Remorse"
Some grumpy thoughts about "Remorse"
In consideration of the massive continuity errors of the latest episode—is that just sloppy writing or (and) sloppy producing, or do they think we viewers are stupid?
Episodes that follow each other but where something fundamental that happened in the episode(s) before is just forgotten? The total rape of Chase's character? The stupidity of Foreman and 13's on and off love affair? Wilson, who one time hates Cuddy for the way she treated House, and a moment later is angry about how House treated Cuddy "over all the years", which is total nonsense, even for Wilson?
"Remorse" made no sense because of the position it had inside the series, especially not after "Wilson" or "The Down Low". It's as if they pulled an old and forgotten script out of the drawer and filmed it down in haste, not caring whatever, how little sense it made at that point, and just thrust it into the show randomly.
This show has producers in abundance, but none of them catches continuity errors and wrong characterizations? Do they just not care (not even HL?), or...what else is wrong with them?
Your thoughts on this?
In consideration of the massive continuity errors of the latest episode—is that just sloppy writing or (and) sloppy producing, or do they think we viewers are stupid?
Episodes that follow each other but where something fundamental that happened in the episode(s) before is just forgotten? The total rape of Chase's character? The stupidity of Foreman and 13's on and off love affair? Wilson, who one time hates Cuddy for the way she treated House, and a moment later is angry about how House treated Cuddy "over all the years", which is total nonsense, even for Wilson?
"Remorse" made no sense because of the position it had inside the series, especially not after "Wilson" or "The Down Low". It's as if they pulled an old and forgotten script out of the drawer and filmed it down in haste, not caring whatever, how little sense it made at that point, and just thrust it into the show randomly.
This show has producers in abundance, but none of them catches continuity errors and wrong characterizations? Do they just not care (not even HL?), or...what else is wrong with them?
Your thoughts on this?
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I don't agree with you: I don't think Cuddy ever loved House. She fancies him, like a schoolgirl the leader of the sports team, or as in a fifties movie the "dangerous" leather jacket wearing leader of the motorcycle pack. It's infatuation at best, not being in love. And especially not real love. I may remind you of "Let them eat Cake". No one who loves acts that way (the other way around also the hint that there is no real love for Cuddy in House. They would like it to be more, they love the *idea* of being more, but it's just the fun of the game and they do want to sleep with each other. But as they don't get even that simple act done it seems there are some needed emotions missing. Like trust, for one.
Well, the post-Dibala Chase is a road wreck. He is again as bored and boring as he was in the first seasons. And House even regresses into hair jokes again, obviously as perplexed about the change as everyone else. He wanted the new, the grown up Chase in his team, the one who could and would stand up against him. And now he can insult him as he wishes and just gets sullen looks for it. Did we fall into a time tunnel? And I don't care for 13 and Foreman at all but that they annoy me and they take away screen time from the important parts and persons. But someone in the high up loves them dearly and keeps the dead horse alive.
There have been a lot of good episodes in this season so far. And some awful ones where the writers weren't worth a luke warm coffee for their sorry efforts (or whoever is responsible for the final version of the scripts).
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Seriously, though. I don't think it's possible to make him stop depending on Wilson for moral/ethical/emotional support/guidance/insight without completely mutilating House's character. And however much some writers may be stretching the Huddy angle, I don't think DS would let them get away with destroying House. One of the producers even said years ago that a happy healthy and sober House all at once would mean the series is over. Which is clearly isn't. So...I'm not too concerned.
Although, people keep hinting that Wilson's character will slowly get explored in a little more depth, and I have this tiny little sense that they're trying to make House better enough that Wilson freaks out over no longer being needed by his one constant in life. And since Wilson defines his own value by how useful he is to a needy party (and since experience has taught him that when he is no longer needed/no longer makes himself needed, the person he loves will grow distant and then leave in some fashion, like the collapse of his marriages after his needy wives learned to stand on their own, and the disappearance of his brother after Wilson refused to play the part of the needed one...) I could see Wilson flipping out if he suddenly realized that House didn't *need* him anymore. Because I don't think that Wilson really understands that people would *want* to be his friend even if they got nothing tangible out of him. (Sort of like House, IMO).
Incidentally, I also think that's one of the reasons Wilson never really gripes all that much about supplying House with food all the time. Because House is getting something out of him, so it's like security, being needed even for something trivial like that.
And I'm done with the looooooong posting.
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When you do have time though sometime (not in a hurry here), would you mind taking a look at my comment (http://community.livejournal.com/house_wilson/3913595.html?thread=48516987#t48516987) down below and applying your intellect to it as well? There's an angle I'm sure I'm missing and I can't see it from where I'm standing.
Goodnight from this side of the pond though for the time being! *waves*
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And Alan Shore for the win.
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Don't really know what you mean about "Let them eat Cake", how does it prove that Cuddy doesn't love House?
About Chase, sorry but I have never thought he's boring, not now nor in the early seasons. Don't think he has changed more than you would expect for someone who lost his wife and has recently had something really screwed up in his life (the whole Dibala case), don't think House, or anyone else for that matter, is perplexed about it, House always makes jokes like that anyway, don't see how it's a big deal.
I think Chase does stand up to House now, if he disagrees with him, he's definitely not kissing House's ass anymore, and he punched House too. Definitely not a regression from where I see it.
I agree about Thirteen and Foreman, but then again, I think Foreman is boring most of the time anyway :/
The only episode I can say I didn't care much for this season was Instant Karma, all the rest I liked or loved.
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I do believe Cuddy admires House. Admires his intellect, admires is bad-boy persona, admires his defiant attitude, his curiosity, his passionate streak (he does have one, clearly) and his sheer determination at times [Key word: "Admire"]. Sad thing is I used to think of Cuddy and strong, passionate and determined, until the "Huddy" started going and her behaviour started becoming skittish, indecisive, coy and vague instead. However, I do believe this love of hers most likely started out as a crush which perhaps grew out of her admiration, as opposed to "true love" - I think it just progressed to such a state, the way these things (such as crushes) tend to do when left to stew/marinate for a while. Also, I think that deep down House's blatantly objectifying comments, while rude, subconsciously make Cuddy feel flattered, because while rude and objectively, the comments are basically his version of telling her that she's hot and sexy. Cuddy might want to feel affronted, and on the surface or her mentality perhaps she does, but I firmly believe she feels flattered by it all, perhaps in an unconscious sense.
*scratches head* It's just... the House/Cuddy just doesn't make sense to me for many reasons aside from those above that if I were to watch all the DVDs again and summarize here, would still take me pages and pages. They have never "been" there for each other (she admittedly perjured herself, but I view it back then as a move to save a friend, colleague and to "own his ass" at work).
Comment continued below due to LJ character-limit.
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House as we the audience are meant to understand is slowly changing for the better, or attempting to (fact remains I think he is changing drastically and faster than I would have expected as well) - and not all change is bad. But I'm disturbed by some of the messages that the show is sending. With regards to the characters of House and Cuddy in particular then with House it would be the decision that being the man with Cuddy is indeed, now that House is changing for the better (and presumably now making better decisions/choices), a "better choice" than being the man with all the answers (something I firmly disagree with by the way), and with Cuddy that this is how the archetypal strong woman behaves and that the standards nuclear family is what should be desired or aspired to. Cuddy changed, but I don't think she has changed for the better because she is no longer assertive, or on my eyes "strong", but has taken to lingeringly pining after House despite all half-hearted protests to the contrary (ergo, any time she speaks to him or about him).
Chase was always one of the more interesting characters to me, and was in my personal opinion the most perceptive one out of the old team. Morally conflicted and ambiguous and times, a believer in God (not just any higher being, but the Christian God) and yet someone who believes in life beyond our planet, a rich boy who didn't get life handed to him on a silver platter. Cameron was fairly interesting too, but making the female the overtly righteous one of the team dulled it for me somewhat - I would have preferred it if she was the arrogant ass like Foreman :). Foreman, eh... I dunno. I get mixed feelings about Foreman. Sometimes I think he's epic ("Who's your daddy? *smug grin*"), sometimes I want to clonk him over the head with one of Wilson's golf clubs (e.g. stabbing Cameron for exposure to give extra incentive to saving him).
14 I liked at first. I still kind of like it, though the arguments between them are starting to smell a bit stale to me. 13 I view as the most perceptive out of the new team - I think Chase might beat her though - (with Taub as the one who sees the most obvious things, which sometimes get overlooked because they're sitting so close to your face) perhaps because of her ability to see outside of categorized "boxes". Seriously though, [Spoilers for possible future storylines] [End possible spoilers].
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