house_wilson_ghc | EPISODE POST-MORTEM: 6x07 "KNOWN UNKNOWNS"

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galadriel1618.livejournal.com

I have no idea what to think about this episode. The House/Wilson moments were good, and it's always lovely when House makes this huge a gesture for Wilson (or vice versa), but the House/Cuddy was painful for me. Why does House suddenly need to be with Cuddy, and why after all these years is he deciding to 'go for it' in such an OCC manner? It doesn't work for me and it sort of overshadowed all the decent moments of the episode. I get it: House wants Cuddy's ass, he apparently ALWAYS will despite the fact that you never really see him do anything significant for her or the fact that if he DID have her it would fall apart in no time. And Wilson is...wow. How many times do you need to shove them towards each other before you leave it alone?

As for House telling Wilson he's an idiot, uh, Son of a Coma Guy? NOT EXACTLY SIN FREE YOURSELF HOUSE. Other than that his speech was incredibly sweet and I wanted them to hug it out afterward. Also, anytime one of them uses the word 'relationship' I squee a little inside, because what they have is much more than a friendship and it pleases me that they acknowledge it (on some level).

P.S. Drug Wilson more often. It always leads to fun times.

P.S.S. Wilson DOES have nice legs.

P.S.S.S. I like Mr. Sprinkles but I STILL DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BABY PLOT. And I'm not sure if we're supposed to believe House wanted to bond with the kid and cook her pancakes and watch Blues Clues or some shit, but I'm going to try to forget this House 'exists' because if I wanted that I would go read fanfic.

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lorib12.livejournal.com

I have to agree with many points that you made. I loved the H/W moments and they'd seemed way more convincing regarding love between them then the H/C moments. I see LOTS of lusting going on with House wanting Cuddy but have never seen him actually do anything to prove he loves her..not like he has for Wilson. TPTB just seem to be making things up as they go along with Huddy in the hopes that people will buy it. I for one, just can't and trust me I've tried. I'd be happy if this episode was the end of Huddy but I'm guessing it's just the beginning of jealous!House (sigh). Other than that, really loved the boys together :)

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galadriel1618.livejournal.com

but have never seen him actually do anything to prove he loves her
I thought the whole point of the House/Cuddy in last seasons finale was that House wants to want Cuddy, and that to be the answer to all his problems; that it would make things so much easier if she could be the one thing to straighten him up and/or make him happy. We've never seen anything convincing with Cuddy in regards to House and their relationship IMO...so every time the show goes the 'and their epic love is foiled again' route I roll my eyes and pray for it to end. I don't expect House/Wilson to happen on the show, but when it's made very clear that House cares much more about Wilson than he does for Cuddy and that House/Cuddy is never going to work out I don't understand why they keep pushing so ridiculously hard.

but I'm guessing it's just the beginning of jealous!House
If all we see is jealous!House I would almost be relieved. The House of this episode might declare his undying love for Cuddy (IDEK anymore).

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anonpostings.livejournal.com

I thought this episode was about saying Huddy was over, at least for a while? That's the idea I got. She's attracted, but knows he'll never be what she wants. He's attracted, but he knows too that he can't do the whole bonding with the kid, and be as responsible as Mr. Sprinkles.

House wasn't telling Wilson he was an idiot because Wilson believed euthanasia was right in hopeless cases. House said it didn't matter if euthanasia is right or wrong; either way Wilson would be unemployable once Wilson publically confessed to euthanizing patients. He agreed with Wilson that it was something that needed to be said....anonymously. House was right, IMHO. He'd be far worse a lawsuit magnet than House ever thought about, not to mention causing serious problems for Cuddy and possibly her career, and on and on. He wasn't hypocritical at all. H&W covered their asses well in Son of Coma Guy; admitted to nothing; knew there were no family members that would be around to ask hard-to-answer questions, etc.

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galadriel1618.livejournal.com

I too think this episode was about saying Huddy isn't going to happen yet. Which is the part I have a problem with: they keep pulling back at the last second; if they want them to have sex they should let them and get it over with so they can go ahead and have the 'we can't do this again' conversation.

I understand why House did what he did and why he said what he said (I didn't expect anything differently; it was IC and when the show manages that I'm pleased!), and I actually agree with it. I just didn't like the way he brought it up and how he sounded when he said it. Again, I'm not saying I would change it, just that House makes stupid and destructive decisions about his own life all the time so for him to say Wilson is stupid for doing the same thing was a bit irritating.

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anonpostings.livejournal.com

I agree both that it is IC, and it's always been irritating, and I get that you wouldn't change it. I can identify with your irritation. House does things to his patients and underlings that he'd never allow his doctors and bosses to do to him, and I'm usually irritated with (or pissed off at) House because of his abuse of power issues and hypocrisy.

I wasn't irritated this time because Wilson could and did fight back both subtly and full-force. 1. "If there's anything I've learned from you, etc." Manipulative, House-ego polishing Wilson at his finest. True, House, manipulated him right back, but it was great. It was a war between equals. 2. Wilson didn't have to hold back when he dressed House down for preventing Wilson from giving the speech. Of course, House explained he was trying to give Wilson what he needed EMOTIONALLY (the acknowledgement that Wilson's been doing the right thing, which he got both from House and the doctor who complimented House on his courage for giving Wilson's speech). That was a significant difference from House's past behavior. He rarely cares so much and so deeply about what someone needs emotionally, nor risks so much so publically to give it. (Someone could have recognized House) I loved it.

Wilson's also been just as arrogant about making pre-emptive, best-of-intentions decisions about House's own good without consulting House. I love how the episode mirrored one of those decisions, the drugged and unfairly forced attendance of his dad's funeral in Birthmarks. 1. It showed House was trying to use Wilson as the model of what a good friend should be, awwwwww, without being mushy. I love it when he tries to use Wilson as a role model. It's cute. 2. I also loved it because it showed how screwed up they both are yet how much they love each other.

I still get why you didn't love it the way I did. Just explaining a little more about why I did.