Some thoughts about "Remorse"

[luridlurker.livejournal.com]

Some grumpy thoughts about "Remorse"


In consideration of the massive continuity errors of the latest episode—is that just sloppy writing or (and) sloppy producing, or do they think we viewers are stupid?
 Episodes that follow each other but where something fundamental that happened in the episode(s) before is just forgotten? The total rape of Chase's character? The stupidity of Foreman and 13's on and off love affair? Wilson, who one time hates Cuddy for the way she treated House, and a moment later is angry about how House treated Cuddy "over all the years", which is total nonsense, even for Wilson? 
"Remorse" made no sense because of the position it had inside the series, especially not after "Wilson" or "The Down Low". It's as if they pulled an old and forgotten script out of the drawer and filmed it down in haste, not caring whatever, how little sense it made at that point, and just thrust it into the show randomly.
This show has producers in abundance, but none of them catches continuity errors and wrong characterizations? Do they just not care (not even HL?), or...what else is wrong with them? 

Your thoughts on this?

Comments

[idonmatrix.livejournal.com]

To me the best epsiode to date has been WILSON. It was extremely well-written. I loved the House/Wilson scenes in Remorse. Everything else is just junk. Not worthy of a rewatch.

If you go back and watch S1- through S6, one thing is undeniably clear. The only person House can't seem to live without is Wilson. Huddy is just a side show and not a very interesting or sexy one. Who the hell finds it sexy to watch a 50 year old gray haired wrinkled man and forty something woman act like they're 12. House is not interested in Cuddy. House is in love with Wilson. Watch Birthmarks. Watch Wilson. Watch Not Cancer. Watch the Pilot. Watch Wilson's Heart. Watch Dying Changes Everything or No More Mr. Nice Guy or House v. God or All In or Safe or Clueless. House has managed to live without a personal relationship with Cuddy for more than 20 years. Not so with Wilson. House cannot live without Wilson. House needs Wilson just like Wilson needs House. That's the love story they're really telling. Huddy is just a painful distraction. And the best cure for it is TiVo FF.

[4theloveofhouse.livejournal.com]

"The only person House can't seem to live without is Wilson."

THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH! Thank you so much for saying this. This has always been my thing: If you take a moment and ask yourself, who can House not live without?

For me, friendship-wise or otherwise, the answer will never be Cuddy.

Oh my goodness, it is such a relief to 'hear' someone else say this. Thanks again! : )

[ivory303.livejournal.com]

House is not interested in Cuddy. House is in love with Wilson

This is where I start to take issue with 'shipping crossing the line into tin-hatting. I'm in total agreement with you that the one person who seems to be absolutely vital to House is Wilson, but that doesn't necessarily mean that either of them desire a romantic or sexual relationship with each other. As interesting an angle as that is to explore through fanfiction, discussion, etc, there is such a thing as platonic friendship. It's clear that the relationship between House and Wilson is incredibly complicated, and all the episodes you've named support that, but I think it's a bit naive to say that House isn't at all interest in Cuddy.

In a way I do agree with you that the "love story" being told is primarily about House and Wilson, but I don't think it in any way detracts from said love story if it turns out to be a story of platonic love and friendship rather than a romance. House and Wilson are a clear example of how deep and meaningful a friendship can be; while House and Cuddy's mating dance may continue to be a "distraction" for the rest of the show, in the end it will have been through his relationship with Wilson that we've learned most about House as a character. I just personally don't see the need to completely cast aside every element of canon that isn't centered around House and Wilson's relationship.

[bery26.livejournal.com]

I... I think I love you...

[idonmatrix.livejournal.com]

Hmmm . . . House woke Wilson up by singing George Michael's Faith, specifically where he expresses a desire to touch Wilson's body. In Remorse House tells Wilson's clinic patient in Spanish that Wilson's empathy toward his patients is borne out of the pain of dealing with chronic male sexual dysfunction. House appears to be just as interested in Wilson's special place as he is in Cuddy's. In The Down Low, House claims he's pretending to be in a gay relationship with Wilson so he can jump Nora repeatedly. When Wilson publicly declares his undying love for House and follows it up with a proposal on bended knee, House doesn't answer, and more importantly doesn't chase after Nora. Instead he stays to share a glass of wine with Wilson. In Birthmarks, House tells Wilson he's the only person he thought was not boring in a sea of 3000 conference attendees. I'm pretty sure the 3000 included both men and women. House declared in Don't Ever Change Wilson was sleeping with him by sleeping with Amber. And in the closing H/W scene, House observed it was better that Wilson found a female proxy for him. And in a S4 episode, House asked Cuddy to sleep with Wilson to get him away from Amber. Now that was interesting.

But I guess the best evidence has come from S6. House was suppose to stay with Wilson for a week or two. They showed us how House moved more and more of his stuff into Wilson's place. As much as House talks about Cuddy you have to wonder what's really going on. From a psychological perspective, it appears as if House and Wilson are using Cuddy and other women as a buffer to avoid dealing with how they really feel about each other.

There's no way House sees Wilson as JUST a friend. Like House said "they're two tigers away from an act in Vegas"

[ivory303.livejournal.com]

I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. While some of the examples you mentioned do provide very interesting insights into House and Wilson's relationship, it seems that you're also taking a number of things incredibly literally.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, so I think I'm just going to have to leave it at: I clearly view the show very differently than you do. To each his own.

[luridlurker.livejournal.com]

I so much agree that I would break your nose with my bobbing head.

House does love Wilson, he shows it over and over again. Will they ever act on it? Unlikely.
In other times and with other upbringing (and other producers etc.) it would be inevitable.
Their relationship is written like a love affair and only the homophobic time and place will delute it to male bonding and friendship. If one of them was a woman, nobody, no-bo-dy would argue that they are each other's destiny.
It's the point of view alone that makes them "bestest friends who would die for each other" or "epic starstruck lovers".

It really not just appears that they use Cuddy etc. to destract themselves from the truth. They do.

[topaz-eyes.livejournal.com]

There's no way House sees Wilson as JUST a friend.

Just driving by to say, I think there is more than enough room to interpret their relationship either way. Neither is wrong. The overarching point is that no matter how you see them, Wilson will always be the most important person to House.

[the-popsicle.livejournal.com]

i fucking love you